My daughter is going to college for Engineering. A male orientated field. The Engineering supervisor at my work said he would be happy to hire more women, but it is hard to find women that are qualified.
Plus my company will only hire bachelor's degree and up....
encorez (rep: 10k) posted Feb 05, 2012
i think it's all relative..i mean..some people go to college and get a good degree and don't even really utilize it..if you look at some people who rose to the top of the money chain, they don't have a college degree..but they also have that creative ability that allows them to try things with less inhibition than most.
it's like people who act..not all..but many..sure..they don't go to college, but they can act..that's a talent that most of us can't do..they found their nitch..or models..they don't all get the college degree..but they didn't need to..they found a way to make the money us college-goers hope to make when we're done..
we go to college to get a good education to hopefully find a great job that pays well enough to live a comfortable life..if i was given an opportunity to have all that without having to go to college..pfft..yeah..i'm pretty sure i would've taken that..but i wasn't..so i went to college..and now i'm in grad school..and hopefully a year from now i'll be making enough money to live a comfortable life..we'll see what happens.
in the end..i think it's all relative.
Experience plays a more important role than a degree in certain fields. 2 year degrees and internship will get you more opportunities but having a 4 year degree looks better on paper in certain professional fields. Sometimes it comes down to luck and timing.
chuckydealpl (rep: 58.8k) posted Feb 05, 2012
I think the college bubble will pop soon, and that will seriously change how a lot of people earn a living. College costs are skyrocketing with no signs of slowing down, while financial aid is drying up. Many who choose to finance a college education without seriously contemplating the debt they're amassing will be in debt for the rest of their lives. As you see even now, that costly degree isn't helping many people very much.
I think the best path out of this mess is for more people to start their own business. No matter what you do, you will always earn more working for yourself than working for someone else, and you don't have to have a college degree in most cases. I have a friend who had a hobby/weekend business of selling bonsai trees. When he was laid off before the economy got really bad, his business became his full time job, and he never looked back.
I went to college, but didn't complete it due to financial reasons, and that was back when a year of college expense was only around $2000/year total. But that was a third of what my parent's house cost, and they still had a 30-year mortgage. When the grants dried up, there was no way I was going to go into debt or even think of asking my parents to do so for me.
When I was in college, I remember meeting a professor who lamented that Karl, who ran the "roach coach" food wagon in the quad every night, earned double his salary.
You don't need to be the next Steve Jobs to make a decent living, but chances are that you'll make a lot more doing anything as your own boss than working for someone else.
fluffy (rep: 2.2k) posted Feb 05, 2012
don't get me wrong, having a 4 year degree is definitely an advantage as opposed to no degree or a 2 year degree. it's the getting there part that is tough nowadays, then you have to worry about how you will finance to make the student loan payment after you get there!
gangstabarbie (rep: 19.8k) posted Feb 05, 2012
Lots of obvious statements here. The one I agree with the most is that the degree doesn't mean as much as knowing what you learned. IMO the best move is to enlist in the military, get paid, get healthcare, get your schooling paid for and set your life up on the right foot. Couldn't be prouder of my child for going this route.
As far as the Ivy league degree comment. 100k is nothing these days. If you aren't pulling in 100k in my field without a degree then you've gotta be half a tard.
Acidbaby (rep: 6.9k) posted Feb 05, 2012
@nimrodboy3: What about the people on TV who *do* have a college degree? I don't watch Jay Leno any more, but his "Jay Walking" segments where he asked people on the streets very elementary questions were both hilarious and depressing at the same time. The most shocking displays of ignorance were always from teachers, as also seen time and time again on various game shows.
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