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So the fact that after a decade of development for the volt and they still had to recall them because of the potential for the battery to explode doesnt weigh on your mind? Natural gas is the way to go, unfortunately at the moment the Civic is the only vehicle available at the moment.
Acidbaby (rep: 6.9k) posted May 09, 2012
While driving home today I noticed a natural gas powered bus and I started thinking about how the price of NG has plummeted as it becomes more and more plentiful. I wondered why we don't have a big push for NG cars as the fuel is plentiful and cheap. It could be that a lot of people are simply uncomfortable sitting on a container of compressed gas - that's what I have read the most. I would happily drive a NG powered car as it seems to me it should work out to be a cheap form of transportation once we got to economies of scale for the vehicle and plenty of places to refuel.
erick99 (rep: 401k) posted May 09, 2012
there was a toyota rav 4 that was sold very limited and it was electric then toyota pull it off the market i think it was sold mostly in california and then i was searching while reading that they planning on bringing it back for 2013 http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-rav4-ev.html
rd995 (rep: 148k) posted May 09, 2012
erick I work for a large energy company in the NG industry and all I can say is you really havent seen anything yet. It is a shame, in 1989 there were a dozen NG powered vehicles. Today there is one available in the USA.
The prices on NG are going to continue to plummet over the next few months as we are just pumping out so much that right now it is projected the reserves will be full by mid july. And we are just starting to really scratch the surface of the Marcellus and Utica shale formations. It is in its infantile stages yet and we have wells producing 25-30 million cubic feet a day. Compared to just 2 years ago the largest producing well was putting out 15 million cu/ft.
Acidbaby (rep: 6.9k) posted May 10, 2012
I was reading an article about NG in a magazine last week, BusinessWeek I think, and they were talking about how other countries have about given up on fracking because it costs them 8x to 14x what it costs per well in the U.S. Anyway, they were talking about you said about running out of place to store NG and that the supply problem would grow as we keep finding more. Is there going to be an economic disincentive to keep exploring for NG at some point? Does the price get too low? I wonder why we are using the hell out of it everywhere. I read another article (same magazine) about how the coal industry is being up-ended by NG.
erick99 (rep: 401k) posted May 10, 2012
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